Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

Login


Take the time to read our Privacy Policy.
PCD fpr FX/FJ - Dr Terry
Options Go to last post Go to first unread
Previous Topic Next Topic
Dr Terry Offline
#1 Posted : Monday, 17 April 2023 3:23:35 PM(UTC)
Dr Terry

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 6,058

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 203 time(s) in 184 post(s)
Does anybody on Fastlane know the PCD dimension for early Holden (FX/FJ) wheel rims.

Dr Terry
If at first you don't succeed, just call it Version 1.0
Back to top
gmholdman Offline
#2 Posted : Monday, 17 April 2023 6:35:35 PM(UTC)
gmholdman

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 489
Australia

Thanks: 3 times
Was thanked: 7 time(s) in 7 post(s)
Have a couple of drums here I will measure them up. AL. Dancing
Back to top
gmholdman Offline
#3 Posted : Monday, 17 April 2023 7:00:16 PM(UTC)
gmholdman

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 489
Australia

Thanks: 3 times
Was thanked: 7 time(s) in 7 post(s)
Terry, 3 7/8” between stud centres x5.

Edited by user Monday, 17 April 2023 7:23:33 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
Back to top
HK1837 Offline
#4 Posted : Tuesday, 18 April 2023 6:39:14 AM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,717

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 512 time(s) in 488 post(s)
That makes it 5 x 6 19/32 I think? Or is it the same as old Land Rover which is 5 x 6 1/2" which means the stud to stud measurement is actually 3 13/16 (just means you are out by 1/16" AL). Landrovers used a 5/8" stud IIRC.
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
gmholdman Offline
#5 Posted : Tuesday, 18 April 2023 2:32:17 PM(UTC)
gmholdman

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 489
Australia

Thanks: 3 times
Was thanked: 7 time(s) in 7 post(s)
Bent stud ?? or my old carpenters wooden 3’ rule with thick paint graduations ?? 😂😂😂. AL.
Back to top
HK1837 Offline
#6 Posted : Tuesday, 18 April 2023 5:34:34 PM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,717

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 512 time(s) in 488 post(s)
Terry, I read on a Landrover forum that landrover, Morris Commercial and "FX"/FJ Holden are 5 on 6.5" PCD (165.1mm)
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
Dr Terry Offline
#7 Posted : Wednesday, 19 April 2023 7:24:09 AM(UTC)
Dr Terry

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 6,058

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 203 time(s) in 184 post(s)
Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
Terry, I read on a Landrover forum that landrover, Morris Commercial and "FX"/FJ Holden are 5 on 6.5" PCD (165.1mm)


Thanks Byron, that seems to back up AL's measurement.

Dr Terry

Edited by user Wednesday, 19 April 2023 7:26:34 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

If at first you don't succeed, just call it Version 1.0
Back to top
Smitty2 Offline
#8 Posted : Wednesday, 19 April 2023 7:18:32 PM(UTC)
Smitty2

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 6/07/2019(UTC)
Posts: 379
Australia
Location: bayside Melbourne

Thanks: 237 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 28 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Dr Terry Go to Quoted Post
Does anybody on Fastlane know the PCD dimension for early Holden (FX/FJ) wheel rims.

Dr Terry


this info ( I just checked ) is NOT in the original GMH 48/215 or FJ service/repair manuals I have
nor is there any info about replacing the wheels studs (front or rear)
... curious that!
Club circuit racing...the best fun you can have with your pants on
Back to top
Dr Terry Offline
#9 Posted : Thursday, 20 April 2023 7:47:19 AM(UTC)
Dr Terry

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 6,058

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 203 time(s) in 184 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Smitty2 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Dr Terry Go to Quoted Post
Does anybody on Fastlane know the PCD dimension for early Holden (FX/FJ) wheel rims.

Dr Terry


this info ( I just checked ) is NOT in the original GMH 48/215 or FJ service/repair manuals I have
nor is there any info about replacing the wheels studs (front or rear)
... curious that!


Exactly & my reason for asking the question in the 1st place. I couldn't find it in any GMH literature & believe me I have a ton of it.

On the topic of wheel stud PCD, have you noticed that the FE to HG (& Torana) PCD was always quoted as 4.24 inches & not 4.25 (which is a more logical imperial 4 1/4 inches).

Dr Terry
If at first you don't succeed, just call it Version 1.0
Back to top
HK1837 Offline
#10 Posted : Thursday, 20 April 2023 9:26:52 AM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,717

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 512 time(s) in 488 post(s)
I had seen that too Terry and thought WTF? Its even in the Engineering Technical Specs: 5 stud 7/16", 20 UNF 2A thread, 4.24" PCD.
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
Smitty2 Offline
#11 Posted : Thursday, 20 April 2023 4:24:11 PM(UTC)
Smitty2

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 6/07/2019(UTC)
Posts: 379
Australia
Location: bayside Melbourne

Thanks: 237 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 28 post(s)
Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
I had seen that too Terry and thought WTF? Its even in the Engineering Technical Specs: 5 stud 7/16", 20 UNF 2A thread, 4.24" PCD.


I remember a long time ago, an argument raging on the GMH-Torana site about this but
no recollection of the outcome as to the why.. why so

but I do remember a silly bit of trivia from that topic, HB Torana is exactly 4.000" Dancing
Club circuit racing...the best fun you can have with your pants on
Back to top
Dr Terry Offline
#12 Posted : Friday, 21 April 2023 7:36:31 AM(UTC)
Dr Terry

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 6,058

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 203 time(s) in 184 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Smitty2 Go to Quoted Post

but I do remember a silly bit of trivia from that topic, HB Torana is exactly 4.000" Dancing


Yeah, HB to TA 4-cyl Toranas were 4 stud @ 4.00" like a lot of other Pommy cars of the era. When I talk about Torana I often forget about the little Vauxhall ones.

Dr Terry
If at first you don't succeed, just call it Version 1.0
Back to top
Dr Terry Offline
#13 Posted : Friday, 21 April 2023 7:43:48 AM(UTC)
Dr Terry

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 6,058

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 203 time(s) in 184 post(s)
Originally Posted by: Smitty2 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
I had seen that too Terry and thought WTF? Its even in the Engineering Technical Specs: 5 stud 7/16", 20 UNF 2A thread, 4.24" PCD.


I remember a long time ago, an argument raging on the GMH-Torana site about this but
no recollection of the outcome as to the why.. why so


I was part of that discussion & yes it did "rage". Most thought it was a misprint, but my point was that was a lot of misprints in a lot of different manuals over several decades. Man, now that's a misprint.

Dr Terry
If at first you don't succeed, just call it Version 1.0
Back to top
 1 user thanked Dr Terry for this useful post.
Smitty2 on 21/04/2023(UTC)
HK1837 Offline
#14 Posted : Tuesday, 8 August 2023 7:59:42 PM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,717

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 512 time(s) in 488 post(s)
It came up again elsewhere on GMH-Torana Terry.

I still reckon it’s a perpetuated error. Otherwise it’s a crazy stud pattern like 4 31/128”.

Do you have any VH docs showing the 4cyl PCD?

Edited by user Tuesday, 8 August 2023 8:01:46 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
Smitty2 Offline
#15 Posted : Tuesday, 8 August 2023 9:37:16 PM(UTC)
Smitty2

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 6/07/2019(UTC)
Posts: 379
Australia
Location: bayside Melbourne

Thanks: 237 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 28 post(s)
Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
It came up again elsewhere on GMH-Torana Terry.

I still reckon it’s a perpetuated error. Otherwise it’s a crazy stud pattern like 4 31/128”.

Do you have any VH docs showing the 4cyl PCD?


VC, VH (and VK too) 4 cyl model steel wheels ... all 5.5 x 13" are the same part
number as on UC Torana if I recall this right from my days of checking GMP&A catalogues
first off prints (lots of people in house at GMH were asking this same question when VC came out)

Does that help?

Edited by user Tuesday, 8 August 2023 9:38:17 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Club circuit racing...the best fun you can have with your pants on
Back to top
HK1837 Offline
#16 Posted : Wednesday, 9 August 2023 6:14:58 AM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,717

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 512 time(s) in 488 post(s)
I have no doubt the wheels are essentially the same. I was just wondering if they revisited the specs when changing the stud threads and specs to metric. I also thought 4cyl Commodore wheels didn’t have hubcap clips?
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
 1 user thanked HK1837 for this useful post.
Smitty2 on 9/08/2023(UTC)
Smitty2 Offline
#17 Posted : Wednesday, 9 August 2023 1:04:04 PM(UTC)
Smitty2

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 6/07/2019(UTC)
Posts: 379
Australia
Location: bayside Melbourne

Thanks: 237 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 28 post(s)
Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
I have no doubt the wheels are essentially the same. I was just wondering if they revisited the specs when changing the stud threads and specs to metric. I also thought 4cyl Commodore wheels didn’t have hubcap clips?


my recollection, (I was given a * VH SL version to drive to Acacia Ridge on one work visit ) is they sorta had .. several bumps in the middle circle pressing of the wheel centre so
GMH fitted a horrid plastic hubcap to VC 4cyl Commodores ( though they fitted UC 6cyl Torries with steel wheels with a plastic hubcap and 4cyl Sunbirds a sort of shiny metal cover)

The base SL VC and VH 4 cylinder cars got a centre cap (retained by the wheel itself) again like the 4cyl Torana


*this thing.. manual 4 cyl with aircon was the only car I have driven in the country flat out WOT
never get caught speeding... up a hill with aircon on it would gradually lose speed, a down shift
was needed to go up a rise or hill on the Hume !

Edited by user Wednesday, 9 August 2023 1:06:55 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Club circuit racing...the best fun you can have with your pants on
Back to top
HK1837 Offline
#18 Posted : Wednesday, 9 August 2023 5:36:22 PM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,717

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 512 time(s) in 488 post(s)
Like this I meant. I thought they were like LC-LJ GTR rims with no hubcap tabs.

_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
 1 user thanked HK1837 for this useful post.
Smitty2 on 11/08/2023(UTC)
Dr Terry Offline
#19 Posted : Thursday, 10 August 2023 11:36:13 AM(UTC)
Dr Terry

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 6,058

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 203 time(s) in 184 post(s)
I'm not sure about the hubcap nibs, but I believe that the Commodore rims have more offset than the Torana ones.

Dr Terry
If at first you don't succeed, just call it Version 1.0
Back to top
Smitty2 Offline
#20 Posted : Friday, 11 August 2023 9:13:32 AM(UTC)
Smitty2

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 6/07/2019(UTC)
Posts: 379
Australia
Location: bayside Melbourne

Thanks: 237 times
Was thanked: 28 time(s) in 28 post(s)
Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
Like this I meant. I thought they were like LC-LJ GTR rims with no hubcap tabs.



thanks
thats what was the base vehicle version with the plastic wheel centre cap

this...is what I was referring to





Club circuit racing...the best fun you can have with your pants on
Back to top
Users browsing this topic
Guest (2)
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF | YAF © 2003-2024, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.095 seconds.