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Does anybody on Fastlane know the PCD dimension for early Holden (FX/FJ) wheel rims.
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Have a couple of drums here I will measure them up. AL.
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Terry, 3 7/8” between stud centres x5. Edited by user Monday, 17 April 2023 7:23:33 PM(UTC)
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That makes it 5 x 6 19/32 I think? Or is it the same as old Land Rover which is 5 x 6 1/2" which means the stud to stud measurement is actually 3 13/16 (just means you are out by 1/16" AL). Landrovers used a 5/8" stud IIRC. |
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Bent stud ?? or my old carpenters wooden 3’ rule with thick paint graduations ?? 😂😂😂. AL.
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Terry, I read on a Landrover forum that landrover, Morris Commercial and "FX"/FJ Holden are 5 on 6.5" PCD (165.1mm) |
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 Terry, I read on a Landrover forum that landrover, Morris Commercial and "FX"/FJ Holden are 5 on 6.5" PCD (165.1mm) Thanks Byron, that seems to back up AL's measurement. Dr Terry Edited by user Wednesday, 19 April 2023 7:26:34 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dr Terry Does anybody on Fastlane know the PCD dimension for early Holden (FX/FJ) wheel rims.
Dr Terry this info ( I just checked ) is NOT in the original GMH 48/215 or FJ service/repair manuals I have nor is there any info about replacing the wheels studs (front or rear) ... curious that! |
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Originally Posted by: Smitty2 Originally Posted by: Dr Terry Does anybody on Fastlane know the PCD dimension for early Holden (FX/FJ) wheel rims.
Dr Terry this info ( I just checked ) is NOT in the original GMH 48/215 or FJ service/repair manuals I have nor is there any info about replacing the wheels studs (front or rear) ... curious that! Exactly & my reason for asking the question in the 1st place. I couldn't find it in any GMH literature & believe me I have a ton of it. On the topic of wheel stud PCD, have you noticed that the FE to HG (& Torana) PCD was always quoted as 4.24 inches & not 4.25 (which is a more logical imperial 4 1/4 inches). Dr Terry |
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I had seen that too Terry and thought WTF? Its even in the Engineering Technical Specs: 5 stud 7/16", 20 UNF 2A thread, 4.24" PCD. |
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 I had seen that too Terry and thought WTF? Its even in the Engineering Technical Specs: 5 stud 7/16", 20 UNF 2A thread, 4.24" PCD. I remember a long time ago, an argument raging on the GMH-Torana site about this but no recollection of the outcome as to the why.. why so but I do remember a silly bit of trivia from that topic, HB Torana is exactly 4.000" |
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Originally Posted by: Smitty2 but I do remember a silly bit of trivia from that topic, HB Torana is exactly 4.000" Yeah, HB to TA 4-cyl Toranas were 4 stud @ 4.00" like a lot of other Pommy cars of the era. When I talk about Torana I often forget about the little Vauxhall ones. Dr Terry |
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Originally Posted by: Smitty2 Originally Posted by: HK1837 I had seen that too Terry and thought WTF? Its even in the Engineering Technical Specs: 5 stud 7/16", 20 UNF 2A thread, 4.24" PCD. I remember a long time ago, an argument raging on the GMH-Torana site about this but no recollection of the outcome as to the why.. why so I was part of that discussion & yes it did "rage". Most thought it was a misprint, but my point was that was a lot of misprints in a lot of different manuals over several decades. Man, now that's a misprint. Dr Terry |
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It came up again elsewhere on GMH-Torana Terry. I still reckon it’s a perpetuated error. Otherwise it’s a crazy stud pattern like 4 31/128”. Do you have any VH docs showing the 4cyl PCD? Edited by user Tuesday, 8 August 2023 8:01:46 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 It came up again elsewhere on GMH-Torana Terry.
I still reckon it’s a perpetuated error. Otherwise it’s a crazy stud pattern like 4 31/128”.
Do you have any VH docs showing the 4cyl PCD? VC, VH (and VK too) 4 cyl model steel wheels ... all 5.5 x 13" are the same part number as on UC Torana if I recall this right from my days of checking GMP&A catalogues first off prints (lots of people in house at GMH were asking this same question when VC came out) Does that help? Edited by user Tuesday, 8 August 2023 9:38:17 PM(UTC)
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I have no doubt the wheels are essentially the same. I was just wondering if they revisited the specs when changing the stud threads and specs to metric. I also thought 4cyl Commodore wheels didn’t have hubcap clips? |
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 I have no doubt the wheels are essentially the same. I was just wondering if they revisited the specs when changing the stud threads and specs to metric. I also thought 4cyl Commodore wheels didn’t have hubcap clips? my recollection, (I was given a * VH SL version to drive to Acacia Ridge on one work visit ) is they sorta had .. several bumps in the middle circle pressing of the wheel centre so GMH fitted a horrid plastic hubcap to VC 4cyl Commodores ( though they fitted UC 6cyl Torries with steel wheels with a plastic hubcap and 4cyl Sunbirds a sort of shiny metal cover) The base SL VC and VH 4 cylinder cars got a centre cap (retained by the wheel itself) again like the 4cyl Torana *this thing.. manual 4 cyl with aircon was the only car I have driven in the country flat out WOT never get caught speeding... up a hill with aircon on it would gradually lose speed, a down shift was needed to go up a rise or hill on the Hume ! Edited by user Wednesday, 9 August 2023 1:06:55 PM(UTC)
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Like this I meant. I thought they were like LC-LJ GTR rims with no hubcap tabs. |
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I'm not sure about the hubcap nibs, but I believe that the Commodore rims have more offset than the Torana ones.
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 Like this I meant. I thought they were like LC-LJ GTR rims with no hubcap tabs. thanks thats what was the base vehicle version with the plastic wheel centre cap this...is what I was referring to |
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