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#1 Posted : Monday, 20 January 2025 8:57:13 PM(UTC)
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Hi,
Can anyone decipher HR firewall plate codes?
My HR has the following.
BODY: HR225-61252-S
TRIM: 1223-E59
PAINT:585-10317
INSERT:D
TOP:585-9562

Small fire wall plate: S135512

Engine Number186A62135

I sent these same details to Holden Historical Services. They responded say they were unable to access any Holden archives.As archival material is being relocated from Melbourne to South Australia.

Any help appreciated.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, 21 January 2025 6:55:43 AM(UTC)
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HR225 = Holden HR Special Sedan
61252 = Body number
S = Sydney built
1223 = GMH combination code for Grecian White over Cordovan Maroon
E59 = Trim number for COPRA & VALSAND FAWN 2-tone interior
585-10317 = Dulux paint code for Cordovan Maroon (Body colour)
585-9562 = Dulux paint code for Grecian White (Top = Roof colour)

S135512 = 135,512th car built in Sydney (Pagewood) since the start of HR production. This includes Chevs, Pontiacs, Bedfords etc, that were built at this time.

186A62135 = Engine number 186 ci 6-cylinder. I think that this is not the original, its number is from an earlier HR.

I believe that the D on the INSERT line was to indicate that a new type of Dulux paint was used.

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67 Special on 22/01/2025(UTC)
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, 21 January 2025 3:17:03 PM(UTC)
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The PSN's don't quite work that way Terry. That Pagewood PSN sequence started during HD, roughly around HD chassis number HD09500S and EH (ute) chassis number EH86400S. It restarted and then climbed to about S156000 or so by the end of HR around chassis number HR81000S. The start of Pagewood HR chassis numbers sit around S65000.

Pagewood HD chassis numbers start around S090000 and that sequence began early in EH, although there seems to be some weird stuff with EH Pagewood PSN's as the real early cars seem to wear late EJ PSN's up in the S82000's although some EJ are built after the PSN reset. A few 100 bodies into Pagewood EH the PSN is back to S00001. The EH commercials built after HD passenger began also wear the reset HD PSN's. I have EH utes with PSN's up to about S82600.

In short S135512 is 135,512 cars that include EH, HD, HR, Bedford, Chevrolet, Pontiac and whatever else GMH were assembling at Pagewood at that time.

I agree on the engine, this car should have been around the 186A200000 mark if it was a 186. 186A62135 will be from a HR with a PSN around S086000.

Edited by user Tuesday, 21 January 2025 3:21:12 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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