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we wreck 81837s only Offline
#21 Posted : Friday, 27 May 2011 4:08:32 AM(UTC)
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they need work around the headlight area, we have used 3 sets and another shop i know has used 1 set and they did the same mod around the headlight, no biggy, just a bit of a reshape, even NOS or genuine always need a pull, bend, tap and a bit of persuasion to fit up nice.i did however find that the gills were split on all the sets we have used and required welding, but once again, no biggy. if you think any replacement panel will just fall into place, you suffer from the same delusion as those thinking you get quality paint for $500 today. still a good product though
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#22 Posted : Friday, 27 May 2011 10:15:23 AM(UTC)
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Guards and panels are one thing, where are the bodies?
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#23 Posted : Friday, 27 May 2011 11:30:36 PM(UTC)
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Guards and panels are one thing, where are the bodies?

The bodies are a long way off and I doubt they will ever be made, if they were made they cannot be registered in the original configuration they would have to meet 2011 specifications which defeats the purpose .
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#24 Posted : Friday, 27 May 2011 11:58:33 PM(UTC)
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The bodies are a long way off and I doubt they will ever be made, if they were made they cannot be registered in the original configuration they would have to meet 2011 specifications which defeats the purpose .

Unless they're used for historic racing, but even then the numbers just wouldn't add up.

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#25 Posted : Saturday, 28 May 2011 12:11:13 AM(UTC)
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Originally posted by les
The bodies are a long way off and I doubt they will ever be made, if they were made they cannot be registered in the original configuration they would have to meet 2011 specifications which defeats the purpose .

Unless they're used for historic racing, but even then the numbers just wouldn't add up.

Dr Terry


Do you need a body number ( identifier number) for race cars , if so you will have a problem there as well.
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#26 Posted : Saturday, 28 May 2011 12:35:25 AM(UTC)
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yes in most cases you do need an identification number, aswell as most categorys having a vehicle build date restrictions and technically they would still be regarded as 2011 models in the EYE's of CAMS

i think even a few historic racing categories wont even let you race a standard hk unless it has some form of previous motorsports history from when it was new
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#27 Posted : Saturday, 28 May 2011 5:12:31 AM(UTC)
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nothing to stop them being built, less the fire wall & sold as a replacement part, no different to repo panels & a better idea in my opinion.
I hope that they are considering a full HQ coupe 1/4 in the near future..
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#28 Posted : Saturday, 28 May 2011 5:39:58 AM(UTC)
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nothing to stop them being built, less the fire wall & sold as a replacement part, no different to repo panels & a better idea in my opinion.
I hope that they are considering a full HQ coupe 1/4 in the near future..

The authorities are well aware of that idea and have expressed their concern , they would probably be picked up at customs. The HK T G firewall has been made but cannot be used as that is where the identifying number is.
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#29 Posted : Saturday, 28 May 2011 9:17:54 AM(UTC)
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Les maybe they can be justified being made for the South African cars as these would be a direct replacement part.

As the SA cars do not have a number stamped onto the firewall !
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#30 Posted : Sunday, 29 May 2011 1:59:31 AM(UTC)
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Why can't they be made with obvious manufacturing differences which would make it impossible to alter them back to standard?

What I'm thinking is make all the external panels correct and then make the underpinnings to sit on which ever modern Commodore platform is the closest fit, make them to use the Commodore firewall, mechanicals and electrics.

I think that apart from restorers who would mainly want panels and not want to rebody a whole car most people are interested in having the classic Monaro body shape with modern mechanicals, suspension, steering and electrics.

Would building them that way enable them to be called replica's or kit cars while still allowing restorers access to new panels?
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#31 Posted : Sunday, 29 May 2011 2:13:46 AM(UTC)
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100% agree with 80569K. I doubt any fastlane user would EVER buy a new bodyshell, they would only ever be used as the basis for a big$$ build where a buyer got to build the car of their dreams if money was not an option because they would be mega bucks ala chip foose
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#32 Posted : Sunday, 29 May 2011 3:14:22 AM(UTC)
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First problem you would need an identifier (body number) which may not be easy to get if you can get one at all.
Second problem is the completed car would have to meet 2011 ADR'S the same as a current Commodore.
I doubt many people would want to go through all of this therefore the market would be reduced greatly making the project not viable.
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#33 Posted : Tuesday, 31 May 2011 4:33:22 AM(UTC)
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i cant really see the problem with building a 2011 monaro in orignal 68 hk form, not everyman and his dog is going to run out and build one?
you can go build a new hot rod fiberglass body new chassis and redgester it on hot rod redgo here in qld not sure what other states do.
id could be issued with a chassis number in the build stage and stamped in befor paint so there for no fraud could be comitted???????
im sure most of these cars would be used for club runs, weekend drive, maybe the odd trip to work, ???
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#34 Posted : Tuesday, 31 May 2011 5:16:29 PM(UTC)
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The authorities are well aware of that idea and have expressed their concern , they would probably be picked up at customs. The HK T G firewall has been made but cannot be used as that is where the identifying number is.
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funny that!!! i dont recall a NOS firewall having any number on
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#35 Posted : Tuesday, 31 May 2011 10:16:49 PM(UTC)
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The authorities are well aware of that idea and have expressed their concern , they would probably be picked up at customs. The HK T G firewall has been made but cannot be used as that is where the identifying number is.


funny that!!! i dont recall a NOS firewall having any number on
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I dare say you are correct in that NOS firewalls had no number this really does not concern me either way as I am no expert on the HK HT HG models.
I am just passing on information that came out of a recent meeting with the police and the registration department of Victoria re federal law concerning new bodies being imported in to Australia.
It may have been and probably was the case when these models were first made that the number was not that important but it is very important now.
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#36 Posted : Wednesday, 1 June 2011 3:33:59 AM(UTC)
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looks like the old monaro will be worth a lot more now that bodies wont be released.
why drink & drive when you can drift & slide
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#37 Posted : Wednesday, 1 June 2011 6:34:26 AM(UTC)
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looks like the old monaro will be worth a lot more now that bodies wont be released.


yee haar!!

now thats wott i wanted to hear
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#38 Posted : Wednesday, 1 June 2011 9:07:09 PM(UTC)
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looks like the old monaro will be worth a lot more now that bodies wont be released.

looks like alot more will never see the road again...pitty!
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#39 Posted : Saturday, 25 June 2011 4:49:33 AM(UTC)
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Gday all,
Looking for some info about repro gts guards for my hk.

Wanted to know if these aftermarket GTS guards for hk,ht n hg monaro's are any good or if anyone has heard anything about them?
Good or Bad.
Has anybody here bought a pair of these repro guards?

Any suggestions as to who is making the best one's close to original as possible??
Cheers Guys.
Matt.


ive looked up all the sellers on ebay, but cant find anything in any of their feedback to say theyve sold any, or if anyone is happy or not???????????

has anyone out there bought ant &/or trial fitted them???


im gunna bring this topic up once again

has anyone bort these guards & fitted them??

still no feedback on any of the sellers to prove they've actually sold any!!!

latest i hear is you have to use bonnet & guards as a set!!!!!!!!!!

guard price has dropped once again & now is $890

sounds to me like they cant get rid of em

surely someone out there has bought a set & actually fitted em & assembled everything around em???

regards DD

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#40 Posted : Saturday, 25 June 2011 5:02:59 AM(UTC)
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As I have already said in a previous reply to this, I have seen two sets fitted up with bonnet. I've seen them in the flesh. Touched them, rubbed my hand on them, rubbed my crotch on them. They are fine. No mods. I know a resto place that wont repair the old ones anymore. Easier and cheaper to buy new ones and bolt them on. Throw out all your dented, bogged up, rusted originals. They're worthless now.

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