HK GTS were supposed to be off gun gloss Warrigal Black under the bonnet but some turn up (Elizabeth bodied from memory) with slush black firewall. The grey you mention will just be slush black, it's just a mix of old paint which formed a colour resembling black and was unused in unseen areas including under the bonnet of Belmont, Kingswood, Monaro and Premier. GTS and Brougham were meant to be Warrigal though.

Just slops black on Belmont, Kingswood, Monaro and Premier.

Remember the Elizabeth BAP made bodies for the Elizabeth VAP but also for Mosman Park VAP. And they made van bodies for Dandenong and Pagewood VAP. The Elizabeth VAP also painted their front panels whereas the other sites with both a BAP and VAP the front panels were painted with the bodies in the BAP except where the body was imported from another BAP eg a Pagewood van. So the Elizabeth process was always going to be slightly different. There will always be anomalies too where a front frame in a GTS or GTS327 or Brougham ended up in slops rather than off-gun gloss.

Note all plants used the slops/slush black, and it varied depending upon what was in it. I’ve seen HK-HG where the firewall was a grey tinge and the front frame a green tinge. It all came down to what colours had been used and emptied out of spray guns and lines. Cars were painted in certain batches of colours too so sometimes there would be more yellow in the mix, other times more blue.

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I've never really cared what was on them. I'm not really into Concours restos. Survivor cars yes but again I've really ignored most cars that aren't from Pagewood as that is what interests me. Early Monaro won't be any different from mid-HK sedan/wagon so just find a last week of June (for Monaro) or first week of July (for GTS) 1968 sedan or wagon if you are interested in what an early Monaro or early GTS had on them. "Early" Monaro is really those June 1968 cars and "early GTS" are the July cars. Both changed a bit after that production in colours and drivelines. Even the sheetmetal changed in many areas, as did a fair bit of other stuff as they worked out easier ways to do things.

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Thanks kevrev. Just looked at that post. Jackpot.... real interesting to find more people saying the copper washers is a genuine Holden thing. As they also commented it could easily vary between the different Holden Plants due to what suppliers they were using in regards to the spring washers and what was on their shelves at the time.

What I cannot get my head around is why copper, or copper coated split washers to hold front guards on?. Could they have been use by accident?. Copper is a great heat and electrical conductor. Used on electrical fittings and of course wiring. Use in all the old school radiators. I really do not understand why it would get used on washers for guards???. Copper has never been cheap either, when compared to steel,etc. Really tempted to remove some rusty guard bolts and see if there is any copper on those washers, try and see it for myself.